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Simple change to the dash in Get Verses: Citation

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  • David Purton

    Since the en dash is the correct character for a number range, returning a hyphen would be a regression. Better to allow the look up to work with an en dash.

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  • Steve Carter

    Got it. Thanks for the heads up. 

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  • Steve Carter

    Can I follow up on this? Does the en dash actually work for the verse look up for you? Because it doesn't for me. On my keyboard, clicking the “minus” key (both the number pad and the regular keyboard) brings up the hyphen character rather than the en dash character. 

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  • David Purton

    Ah - Maybe I misunderstand what you are saying. My version of Accordance is too old to support the Get Verses feature. But looking at the docs, I think you mean that the reference in the *Get Verses Dialog* is changed from a hyphen to an en dash, not that the citation returned to clipboard or inserted into Word contains an en dash.

    If this is what you mean, then I agree with you and see no reason to change the hyphen to an en dash in the dialog. But I'd definitely want the citation returned to clipboard or Word with the reference using an en dash rather than a hyphen. Seeing people type verse ranges using hyphens makes me sad.

    I don't use Windows or Mac, so I don't know what easy ways there are to set up typing an en dash, but the Linux way of using a compose key followed by a key combination that makes logical sense is miles better than anything I have ever seen on other platforms.

    For the record, Unicode contains a lot of different dash characters used for different purposes: https://util.unicode.org/UnicodeJsps/list-unicodeset.jsp?a=[:General_Category=Dash_Punctuation:] and that's not including the minus sign at U+2212. Funnily enough, in looking at this I see that en dash is not the right character! There's a figure dash! Learn something new every day. Though a quick check of my system shows that many more fonts support en dash than figure dash.

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  • David Purton

    Hmmm - although, now I'm not sure about that figure dash. It's use looks slightly more specialised.

     

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  • Steve Carter

    Woah. You're hardcore! For a brief moment I thought about going to linux. But backed out. lol. Couldn't figure out how to get the newer accordance to work on it. 

    Yeah I was surprised at how many ways to make a dash line when I was figuring out the root cause of the problem. Who knew? lol

    Yep, all I was hoping for was that the dash between the reference that gets copied to my clipboard (and then pasted into word in the “Get Verses Feature.”) is the same as whatever dash it is that shows up when I hit the “-” button on the numpad of my keyboard, or the “-” button (to the right of the “0” key on the top row) 😅

    Either way, if it's a lot of work, I'm totally good to keep doing what I'm doing. 😊
    Thanks for following up on this by the way. 

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  • Brandon Zylstra

    > Better to allow the look up to work with an en dash

    Yes, the look up should definitely be flexible enough to use as input the same format that Accordance is giving as output.

    David Purton Wait—are you using Accordance on Linux?  Please share how you did that! 🙏🏼  

    I've been entertaining the idea of switching to Linux as my primary OS and macOS as secondary, but Accordance not working on Linux is a huge obstacle to that.

    > My version of Accordance is too old to support the Get Verses feature.

    Hmm… are you using an old version because you were only able to get old versions running under some sort of emulator?
     

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  • David Purton

    Brandon Zylstra I run accordance 10 under Wine.

    It works, but performance is not spectacular. 

    However, you would need to be very committed to try and make this work with a new set up. 

    Accordance 11 and later do not work with any version of wine, so you need to use version 10. Accordance 10 does not work with current versions of wine, so you need to use wine version 5. Accordance 10 is no longer supported, so to install modules you need to unpack them on another computer, manually copy the files across and then ask for an unlock code.

    (I haven't tried newer versions of wine for a while, if anyone wants to give a status update.)

    The only reason I persist is because I am stubborn and I refuse to run windows even in a VM.

    I wait for the cloud version of it ever comes.

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